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vness
03-11-2008, 07:54 AM
hi all... I've got the BuB Jug Huggers on my VTX 1300C but the top pipe is trying to fry me! I LOVE the pipes!! (considering removing the baffles but that's another question :)
I need to figure out how to cool that top pipe down. I'm only 5'1" and my leg just about rests on it. I am going to lower the bike but I still don't think that's going to give me enough clearance.
we got some reflecting tape to put inside the heat shields but I'm concerned about throwing all that heat directly back onto the pipes... would that work or fry them?
Also looking at ceramic coating on the pipes
any suggestions would be welcome indeed! Trying to maneuver that bike in a parking lot when I get can't my right foot down is awfully hard :)
thanks
namaste,
vness
vness
03-16-2008, 07:29 AM
hi all... I've got the BuB Jug Huggers on my VTX 1300C but the top pipe is trying to fry me! I LOVE the pipes!! (considering removing the baffles but that's another question :)
I need to figure out how to cool that top pipe down. I'm only 5'1" and my leg just about rests on it. I am going to lower the bike but I still don't think that's going to give me enough clearance.
we got some reflecting tape to put inside the heat shields but I'm concerned about throwing all that heat directly back onto the pipes... would that work or fry them?
Also looking at ceramic coating on the pipes
any suggestions would be welcome indeed! Trying to maneuver that bike in a parking lot when I get can't my right foot down is awfully hard :)
thanks
namaste,
vness
nobody else has this problem? or any solutions?
Am I the only short person riding BuBs?
gersty suggested: an idea on the heat off the pipes you could take the heat shields off and wrap a layer of header tape around the pipes and put the heat shield back on but thats just an idea im sure someone will chime in on this i would post about it in the shop forum under exhaust
I'm sure he thought I'd receive at least a couple of replies...
ok.. all you Bubs out there... any solutions???? Please?
thanks,
namaste,
vness
Bassdude404
03-16-2008, 08:27 AM
I really figured someone would've come up with a fix for your problem....The only thing I can think of is to get the bike a little lower to the ground with shorter rear shocks....Not a cheap, easy fix, but that should do it...
vness
03-16-2008, 08:34 AM
I really figured someone would've come up with a fix for your problem....The only thing I can think of is to get the bike a little lower to the ground with shorter rear shocks....Not a cheap, easy fix, but that should do it...
thank you so much for replying... I am lowering the bike... needed it anyway. Hopefully that will help.
I'm also considering changing the bars to the R stock and putting risers on them so I can perhaps sit farther back
thanks again... I may have to post a thread to try and find other 'shorties' like me LOL
I REALLY appreciate your help... have been surprised by the lack of response
namaste,
vness
Bassdude404
03-16-2008, 09:02 AM
Every so often, "bump" this up to keep it fresh in folks minds....There's so many threads and alot of newbies everyday, that it's hard to remember everything all the time....Eventually, someone that's in the same situation will have some helpful advice...I've noticed that alot of the folks with the 1300C change out their stock bars for the one from an "R" or "S"....Seems to make a more comfortable riding position....
Ghost 26
03-16-2008, 10:30 AM
Another option you may want to look at is to have your seat worked on by Bad-X over at Mean City Cycles. He can reform your seat so that you are lower, and may be able to push you forward too. Here is his website:
http://www.meancitycycles.com/
You can also PM him for info.
Sorry you aren't getting more help on this. Not something we hear much about so I don't think there is much of an info base on it. If you do find a way to work around the heat from the pipes, let us know how you did it.
G26
vness
03-17-2008, 08:50 AM
Every so often, "bump" this up to keep it fresh in folks minds....There's so many threads and alot of newbies everyday, that it's hard to remember everything all the time....Eventually, someone that's in the same situation will have some helpful advice...I've noticed that alot of the folks with the 1300C change out their stock bars for the one from an "R" or "S"....Seems to make a more comfortable riding position....
Thanks... I found some 2004 1300R stock bars and just want to make sure they'll fit on my 2006 1300C.
Will they indeed work and with the existing cables as well?
I also recently did a search and found someone saying that the R bars were too wide for their wife but I'm thinking with such a wide tank on the 1300, I probably wouldn't want bars that were narrower - or am I wrong?
at only 5'1" (oh am I getting tired of writing that LOL), I've been look at the PhatRisers II which say they were created especially for "vertically challenged" people, raising bars 2" and adding 3" of pullback
does this sound like a good combination with the R bars for me?
I love the responsiveness of the C bars, but they are a bit of a reach and make the bike difficult to maneuver when parking.
is it likely that changing out as above will help?
I'm also in the process of lowering.. putting 11" shocks on (just waiting for them to arrive) and already lowered the fork 1/2" (I also have a fork lowering kit if the bike feels top heavy with the lower shocks)
sigh... I just want to ride!!! without getting my leg burnt off and with that sweet feeling of being one with my bike :)
thanks
namaste,
vness
vness
03-17-2008, 09:00 AM
Another option you may want to look at is to have your seat worked on by Bad-X over at Mean City Cycles. He can reform your seat so that you are lower, and may be able to push you forward too. Here is his website:
http://www.meancitycycles.com/
You can also PM him for info.
Sorry you aren't getting more help on this. Not something we hear much about so I don't think there is much of an info base on it. If you do find a way to work around the heat from the pipes, let us know how you did it.
G26
Thank you for your reply... I spoke to someone from Bad-X during Bike Week and since I'd already had the seat gutted they didn't think they could do much more without recovering the seat. When I can afford it, I want a solo... probably the So-Cal Arizona Slammer. But first, I have too many 'issues' to resolve
I've been surprised by the lack of response... research is telling me that ceramic coating the pipes will greatly reduce the heat off the pipes and as a result, increase the heat in them, enhancing performance.
I'm also surprised that anyone living in a hot climate (I'm in florida) wouldn't want to decrease the heat coming off their pipes... even my old bike was murder in traffic in the summer
but of course, I've been hoping for unbiased corroboration of that :)
thanks again for replying.
namaste,
vness
dublinking
06-23-2008, 08:02 AM
ceramic coating the outside will help alittle, but to really get the benefit of ceramic coating you need to have the inside coated. Try JetHot, they will do the inside and outside...but will first need to be real clean.
BrotherBear
06-23-2008, 09:35 AM
If you can you might try drilling holes in your heat shields. I know it sounds like it would make it worse, but stay with me on this. Opening up the heat shield gives it more surface area to disapate heat. They make them pre-drilled if yours are replaceable. I beleive you can find them at JPcycles.com or DennisKirk.com.
You might try the predrilled ones before taking a bit to your own. Reflective tape and putting the heat back into the pipe could cause blueing in the chrome.
BrotherBear
06-23-2008, 10:10 AM
pic of the drilled heat shields
jagarcia
06-23-2008, 10:38 AM
Just my two cents: changing your position sounds like the most reasonable thing to do, and you have that covered. I'm guessing that you ride in shorts a lot. I know most people do, but covering the legs would help with this and in an accident. I wear protective pants that are vented; well it's an option for you.
The perforrated heat shields sound like a good idea too. I think it would be very hard to do a nice job like that by yourself. I'm no mechanic, but I was concerned about the fix that included reflective material on one side. I was thinking that the unevenness of the heating might be a problem for the equipment.
Good Luck.
Scotrod
06-23-2008, 10:11 PM
How about putting a 2nd shield (like the small ones shown above) over the first sheild at the 'critical' location?
My 1800 C factory exhaust has a 2-layers deep heat shield system by 'the ankle area'. Came from the factory like that.
If you could somehow position one of those perforated shields right where you need it over the existing shield system, you could possibly avoid contact with the 'hot' "inner" shield. (might actually look kinda cool if you were to get one colored like your bike,,)
Clamping it on over all the shield and pipe may be tough,,,,, maybe rivet it on to the existing shield if you knew for sure where you wanted it,,,
Scotrod
06-23-2008, 10:23 PM
My 1800 C factory exhaust has a 2-layers deep heat shield system by 'the ankle area'. Came from the factory like that.
Look at Ghost26's ride above,,, and his 'top pipe',,, looks like another version of the '2 layer' heat sheild from Honda,,,
Scotrod
06-30-2008, 10:06 PM
Well, we must be too late.
It's been almost 2 weeks now, with no posts from vness.
My guess is that she must have spontaneously erupted,,,,
whiskeyrockr
06-30-2008, 10:25 PM
you can check out www.scootworks.com (http://www.scootworks.com) i know that have lowering kits for most hondas at around 100.00, a little cheaper than the 11" 412 series progressive shocks if they have a lowering kit for the vtx. if so, it only takes about 10 minutes to install.
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