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I recently obtained an abandoned 2003 VTX 1800S...It didn't have a key...I have been using the same locksmith for years...I took him the ignition and had him make me a key...it cost me $30.00...I only got one...I sprayed PB Blaster in each lock and let it sit 24 hrs and it worked on all the lock...Moving
it home with the front wheel being locked wasn't to bad with the front wheel on a small dolly...the best news was when I got the tank off...I decided to
just put 12 volts to the system...not for starting...just to see if lights and stuff would come on...they did and discovered that it only has 2,990 miles on the clock...I don't think it has ever had its first oil change...I did put some PB Blaster in the cylinders and several days later crank the engine by hand...its free...The key I had made is a (L) HD75...The last time this bike had tags was 2008...it has sat and neglected most of its life...What a waste...
 

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Purchased 2 keys for $15 from my local Dealer (stealer) this weekend. Pretty funny, they used the HD 75 blank mentioned in the initial post.

Likely could've gone cheaper elsewhere but $15 for two wasn't too expensive and the Dealer knew exactly how to cut them.


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Tried that-

The only addition I might suggest is that if you bought your bike after 2005, the dealer where you bought it has the key code on file. That key code can be used by a locksmith to create a new key. I just did that from my son's 06 1300C.

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Tried that with the dealer where I bought my VTX in 2009 and they claim not to have that info.:confused:
 

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Call the nearest Locksmith and ask for the cost of the key set. I will not advise anyother source. i think the modern car keys are not easy to duplicate. In my new i20, I was told that the car will start with only the factory made keys that come with the car due to some sensor (??) I think. If the duplicate is possible and not done properly it could cause scratches in your ignition and thereby spoil the original key function. I think it is good to invest in a new set of keys for such a good car.
 

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I am a commercial locksmith I don't get too involved with the automotive or the bike end of the business..
Your average hardware store is sort of hit or miss when it comes to duplicating keys..
Key cutting machines need to be calibrated regularly and the cutting wheel replaced when it gets worn.
And you need someone who understands how to vise and align both keys.
If you have a key that works use a micrometer accurate to 1/1000 " measure the depth of the cuts..
If your duplicated key is off by 5/1000" you are going to have some difficulty in getting it to work.
Just take a small file, assuming it is a high cut and file it down to the proper depth
Keys and locks wear over time and the lock the gets the most amount of use is the ignition.. I have seen locks so worn almost any key will work.
So the bottom line is usually the best key is the one that is cut from code.. it should work in all the locks that were keyed to the factory original key. Duplicating an old key always introduces more deviations from the original code.. it is like photocopying a photocopy there is a point where it looks nothing like the original... just my 2 cents
 

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Thanks, this was super helpful. I bought my bike with only one original key and need to have more made. Probably this weekend I'll go to a local hardware and try them. I have been told by my in-laws that they are the go-to place for keys. Glad I know some options for blanks!
 

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Just wanted to let everyone know of a possible issue with going places for a key. I went to our local Walmart and told them what key I needed and they told me that with the machine that they have they can't cut them that way. They have to scan the actual key in the machine for a match and if it does not recognize they key they can't even cut it. She said that they system really was a pain. Sometimes people would have a key that the top broke off & the machine couldn't identify the key. They couldn't cut it even though she could read the number on the key and knew they had the blank for it. Also, went to our Home Depot and they had the same machine but they still had the old one so could cut it. The problem was that they did not have the #30 or #31, only a #31R. I tried the 31R but it does not even fit into the key slots. Going to try another Home Depot or possibly the Ace Hardware that is on my way home this weekend.
 

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Go to a locksmith. The price will probably be $7 per key instead of $3 but they won't have the same limitations as the peons at a big-box store.
 

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The Honda OEM Manufactured keys used one of two part number for the vtx 1800 and 1300 .. all models.
There is a three alpha numeric code on each OEM key.

These are the OEM part numbers for the 2 part number possibilities :
35121-MCH-810 - TYPE 1 KEY NO AXX / BXX replacement non oem blank is HD74
35122-MCH-810 - TYPE 2 KEY NO CXX / DXX replacement non oem blank is HD75
The web site 2002-2010 Honda VTX1800, VTX1300 Motorcycle Keys explains.


To identify the key that you need :
Look at your OEM key. There is a code on it. Match that code to the OEM part numbers/codes above shown in red. XX = a variable 2 digit number.

In example: My key code given on my OEM key is D39.
That means the OEM part number is 35122-MCH-810 - TYPE 2. The associated non oem key blank I need is HD75.

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Shown in the pic is the actual example of my situation. It shows the OEM key and code of D39 along with the HD75 key cut today at ACE Hardware that is the non oem blank.
 

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Finished up a build on a '98 Shadow Aero last spring, and finally getting around to doing a custom key for it...Lady rider and loves dragonflies..

Made a silicone mold from a section of wooden dowl rod that I sanded the edge down a bit, then mixed up a tiny batch of two part casting resin and poured it into the mold and let it sit for 6 hours...Then placed a dragonfly charm I got off ebay into the mold and mixed up another small batch of resin and poured it in, let it cure for another 6 hours...Came back to it and mixed up more resin, but this time mixed in some "snowflake" pigment to give it a nice background...

Now for my "learning experience"...The wood dowel plug I made, I sprayed it with some polyurethane and let it dry a few days before making the mold...Found out after making this piece that the polyurethane didn't exactly play well with the silicone...And when I pulled the plug out it didn't leave the impression in the mold perfectly smooth...I was able to pour a tiny bit more silicone into the bottom to level it out, but couldn't fix the sides without starting over from scratch...So after the part fully cured and zi popped it out of the mold, the sides were a little rough..Sanded the outside edge with 600/800/1000/1500/2000 and finally 3000 grit wet/dry and then hand polished it the best I could...It's not perfectly clear on the side as it is on the front, but going to go ahead and fit the key into it today...Might leave it as-is, or I had the idea of mixing up a little bit more resin, stick the key into a cardboard box and pour the resin onto the "knob" and let it "waterfall" over the edge and that will make it crystal clear (I already tried it with water and it cleared right up)...
 

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