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I have a Memphis Fats 21" on my R. I havent ridden in many years so I dont remember exactally what to expect from the wind. I do feel I get too much head buffeting though. It almost feels more like a vibration and I cant tell exactally where the wind might be coming from but it is very tiring. Would a windshield too tall cause it or is it most likely coming from below? I had a 19" but I seemed to be looking directly at the edge of the shield and it bothered me. I figured a 21" would be good for 2 up riding better than a 17. I guess its the wind that feels like someone is slapping rapidly on my helmet. Any ideas? How quiet and smooth should I expect?
 

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A lot of people have posted that properly placed lowers has taken care of most of that. Keep in mind that looking through a shield in poor weather is not optimal. I have a 19" and it is too short however it may be just right after I do my Bad X seat mod. At that point I will be doing the lowers. I dont really like the look of the shield or lowers, but am putting this bike together for touring comfort and not really concentrating on the lines style wise.
 

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Doc if you take your hand while going down the road put down by the front edge of tank and move it around a bit
you will soon feel the buffeting of your head change.

you are better off having a shield that is a little short verse trying to look through when it is wet and dark out.
 

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This may sound crazy, but what kind of helmet do you wear. Sometimes, a helmet with a visor does nothing more than scoop up the wind. If you have a visor, take it off and see what happens.
 

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I have a Memphis Fats 21" on my R. I havent ridden in many years so I dont remember exactally what to expect from the wind. I do feel I get too much head buffeting though. It almost feels more like a vibration and I cant tell exactally where the wind might be coming from but it is very tiring. Would a windshield too tall cause it or is it most likely coming from below? I had a 19" but I seemed to be looking directly at the edge of the shield and it bothered me. I figured a 21" would be good for 2 up riding better than a 17. I guess its the wind that feels like someone is slapping rapidly on my helmet. Any ideas? How quiet and smooth should I expect?
Using lowers has been well discussed here, but if I may, I have a few notes with regards to the turbulence that comes off of the top of the windscreen. I had major head buffeting issues at one point as well. As has been well pointed out here, buffetting usually comes from one of two places. Below the shield or above it. :) The trick is figuring out which one you are dealing with. The air coming off the top of your windscreen is usually very turbulent compared to the air that would be hitting you if you had no windscreen at all. Some windscreens suffer from this more than others. I suppose a perfectly designed windscreen would not do this, but I don't believe there is any way to at least prevent that the air coming off of the windscreen to be faster moving than air that has not (any aerodynamic experts, please chime in here). So if at all possible, you do not want your face or the neck opening, or vents, of a full face helmet in that "dirty" air.

Some helmets are more effected by this than others for a number of reasons. A good full face helmet ususally is a little taller on your head than most open helmets. Full helmets also often have vents protruding from the top that may be just high enought to catch the turbulent airflow coming off the top of your windscreen. Another issue with full face helmets is that the air can get up under your chin and with no easy way to flow right through the helmet it starts "rocking your world"; often in this case, opening your visor a crack will stop or drastically reduce the head shaking. Sometimes just using a different helmet can drastically effect buffeting. Of course with the prices of a lot of helmets, this can be a much more expensive solution than changing windshields :)

I found that a good way to tell if your buffetting is coming from the turbulence at the top of the windshield is to simply lower your head a bit by slouching and see if it goes away. As well, if you are wearing an open face windshield and you are experiencing buffetting, but do not feel it on your face, just try to sit a little taller in the saddle and then see if you feel the turbulence directly on your face after only sitting a few inches taller. If you do, then it is quite likely that some buffetting was being caused by that same turbulence hitting the top of your helmet while you were in your normal riding position.

If you are able to determine that the buffetting was being caused by turbulence off the top of the windshield, you have only 3 choices. A taller shield, a shorter shield so that the turbulence isn't hitting your head, or a different model of shield all together that might do a better job of controlling the airflow and turbulence that is occuring at your particular head height with your particular helmet.

Hope this is of some use and that I have made sense.
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Thanks for the responses. Theres some good ideas here. I would like to try a different helmet. I have a full face and am not completely sold on it anyway. I feel very confined inside of it. I guess thats good but I'm not sure I like the feeling. I also would like to try lowers although I really do not like the look. I will keep after it and I will solve the problem. I just need more time in the saddle for experimentation.
 

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Doc, I had a Fats and I replaced it with a Memphis Hell Cat. My buffeting went away. I get a little more air on my arms but that is not a problem at all.
 

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Looking at the picture of your bike and thinking that your windscreen looks very upright. If at all possible you may want to try tipping it back a bit. It may help the air become a little less turbulent. Of course that won't help if your problem is from air coming from under the windscreen.
 

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From what I've gathered through the fabulous folks here, you want to be able to look just over the edge of the windshield. This will allow the wind off the screen to adequately traverse over your helmet with little disturbance. My windshield is too short by almost two inches so my eyeballs jiggle quite a bit. I plan on getting the seat modded, which should drop me in the saddle that two inches and reduce the eye jitters... so I'm waiting on a new windshield for now. When I first had this problem, I leaned the windshield out more... so it was more upright. This helped get the wind up over my helmet a bit and it seems to work OK. It will be better when I'm sunk into the seat, but I might get a taller shield anyways, so I can drop down a little more and decrease some of the air comming off the front of the bike. Then add lowers, etc. etc. etc...
 

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Like mscales said, a smaller, handlebar mounted is far more adjustable than the "Fats" type of shields that bolt to the forks with no room for angle adjustments. Your options are to do what mscales did or buy lowers.
Mholhut, you'll be sorry you have a shield that you look through when it rains. In my opinion, you should always have a few inches of space to look over the top of the shield for safety.
 

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Personally, I've got the 19" Memphis Fats, and I love it. Only get buffetting above 80mph (don't plan on riding there much). I'm 6', and also have the Mustang seat.
 

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Untill today I have never driven a MC with a windshield and today I drove bikes with shields I couldn't see over to ones I could see over. I got turbulence from each a every one albeit different kinds of turbulence. The thing I enjoy about the shield is taking that wind off my chest and being able to relax instead of holding on for dear life LOL.

I installed a National Cycle Chopped windshield on my bike today and it is only 14-15 inches from the headlight. I was pretty surprised because at some speeds I would get that buffeting everyone has been talking about and then I would speed up and it would lessen. It was almost as if there are sweet spots you need to find. Currently I can see well above the shield and I like it that way. I wonder how all this will chage when I change the springs in my forks. Just some ramblings!
 

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Like mscales said, a smaller, handlebar mounted is far more adjustable than the "Fats" type of shields that bolt to the forks with no room for angle adjustments. Your options are to do what mscales did or buy lowers.
Mholhut, you'll be sorry you have a shield that you look through when it rains. In my opinion, you should always have a few inches of space to look over the top of the shield for safety.
My smaller Hell Cat shield actually has less buffeting then the Fats did. THe verticale ange of the Fats and the width made it like a MACK truck as far as pushing wind. Like I said, I do get a little more wind on my arms but it is not teh same buffeting on my arms or helmet as with the Fats. The Hell Cat has more adjustments built in then a Fats and is also curved with more aerodynamics to direct wind flow instead of just punching a big hole in the wind. Because of this I get less turbulance on my helmet, arms and legs although I get more air. The air or wind I do get does not buffet me and that is much preferable to me.
 

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I've heard that about the hellcat, I'm glad its working for you. I will have to ride more with a shield to really appreciate the benefits.
 

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Looking at the picture of your bike and thinking that your windscreen looks very upright. If at all possible you may want to try tipping it back a bit. It may help the air become a little less turbulent. Of course that won't help if your problem is from air coming from under the windscreen.
Plus 1 HOTX, I'd change the angle of the shield instead of getting another one. I've had MS FATS 19,21 Slims 17, Shooter, Hell Cat, Big Shot. With every one of them I've been able to control the head buff with adjusting the angle of the shield. Just take your adjustment tool with you on a trip and work it out. You may have to change it many times, But you'll find the sweet spot. A seat and front lightbar will also change the way air hits you. If you're looking for these in the future. GG :D
 

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I have been hanging around the board since last June without posting just reading. There is a wealth of information here and I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for all the great posts.

I am 6'4" and have a Memphis Fats 21". I have it adjusted where I'm looking about 2" over the top of it for safety reasons. The buffeting was causing my glasses to move around some on my face. Not to bad, but enough to bother me. I wear a 3/4 helmet with a visor. I decided to add the lowers and this made a hugh difference for me. It seems the air flow from under the shield was the main culprit. This may not work for you. I do agree with Green Ghost that changing the angle of your shield could fix the problem without any additional cost.
 
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