[TTNuge]

Was taking my rear wheel off to replace the tire and I noticed before I even started that the hole in the rear axle looked a little boogered up. Fortunately I got the axle out and the wheel off, tire mounted today but that's as far as it's going right now.
Went to put the axle back in and started tightening things down when the hex socket started spinning in the hole. I had second thoughts about putting it back in and my first impression was right. Lucky for me it wasn't all the way in the hole yet so I was able to get the axle out without having to pull my exhaust and pound it out from the other side.
Three to Five days to get an axle in, no place near me has one in stock. Thinking of welding a large nut on to the end of the axle so I can install it and ride, the next two days are going to be beautiful. Think I'll be able to weld a nut to the axle to the point that I can torque it down to 81 ft/lbs?

Thanks,
Trent

 

[MPD193]

I've never used that side of the axle. I use a 1 1/16 wrench on the other side. You could probably just torque it down from that side and be done with it.

 

[TTNuge]

I've never used that side of the axle. I use a 1 1/16 wrench on the other side. You could probably just torque it down from that side and be done with it.

That's more or less what I did. It's tough with the big 2 to 1 exhaust on the 1800C so I can't get a torque wrench on that side without removing the pipe. For now I ran a bolt down inside the axle leaving the head stick out a bit and welded it in place. I'm going to order a new axle but this will work until I get the replacement.

What I should have done is used JB Weld to hold the bolt in instead of welding it. That way I wouldn't have had to deal with the slag up around the head of the bolt and difficulty getting a wrench/socket on.

 

[dirtdobber]

my grandsons retro and my C has 2 into 1 exhaust. I use a box/open end wrench.

It seems you used the wrong size allen. Any movement with a allen wrench when tightening can cause it to slip. If you get the proper metric allen You may be able to knock it in and still be able to tighten the nut. I have had good success doing this. Always tighten with the nut side. The allen portion is used to hold the axle.

 

[MPD193]

I keep forgetting that I have Cobra slip-ons and they slip right off as well. I have to lift my wife's Aero and drop the shocks to get the axle to side out. It's either that or take the entire exhaust system off.

 

[BigJon]

I've never used that side of the axle. I use a 1 1/16 wrench on the other side. You could probably just torque it down from that side and be done with it.

Exactly. You never torque a bolt (axle), you torque the nut.

 

[TTNuge]

Exactly. You never torque a bolt (axle), you torque the nut.

Understood, and while I never got to the point of torquing it down before it stripped I imagine the PO may have done it that way due to the exhaust being in the on the nut side. I can get an wrench on it no problem but getting a torque wrench on without removing the exhaust seems next to impossible.

 

[MPD193]

Just use the wrench to tighten it up, I won't tell. Just check it again in a hundred miles to make sure it still tight.

 

[doug48317]

Just use the wrench to tighten it up, I won't tell. Just check it again in a hundred miles to make sure it still tight.

+1... Just use a wrench and crank it down tight, I have never used a torque wrench on a bike wheel and I've never had one fall off yet I just go by the "good-n-tight" method on everything except engine internals.

 

[chopperhound1971]

good-n-tight leads to stretched bolts, weakining them. but dont mind me I am a federaly licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic....

did you try the torque wrench with a crowsfoot adapter? you mentioned welding weld a box end wrench to an old socket that fits your torque wrench then do the math to figure out your torque with the longer leverage arm created by the length of the wrench. I know plain as mud huh? anyway enjoy

 

[TTNuge]

good-n-tight leads to stretched bolts, weakining them. but dont mind me I am a federaly licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic....

did you try the torque wrench with a crowsfoot adapter? you mentioned welding weld a box end wrench to an old socket that fits your torque wrench then do the math to figure out your torque with the longer leverage arm created by the length of the wrench. I know plain as mud huh? anyway enjoy

I like the idea of welding something up to fit on the nut side, I may look into that further. For now, yes I just tightened it by feel and to be safe I'm sure I overtightened rather than under. I don't mind the bolt head welded on to the other end, I may just keep that there and find a chrome cap I can silicone onto it since I won't be removing it very often.

 

[Charlie D]

good-n-tight leads to stretched bolts, weakining them. but dont mind me I am a federaly licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic....

did you try the torque wrench with a crowsfoot adapter? you mentioned welding weld a box end wrench to an old socket that fits your torque wrench then do the math to figure out your torque with the longer leverage arm created by the length of the wrench. I know plain as mud huh? anyway enjoy

Fact is the nut is going to strip before the bolt is stretched and Honda seems to think you have to kill it with torque.

I went with less torque on it and haven't had the flange bearings go out since and the nut is a lock nut so it shouldn't loosen unless a wrenc is used on it.

 

[BigJon]

Understood, and while I never got to the point of torquing it down before it stripped I imagine the PO may have done it that way due to the exhaust being in the on the nut side. I can get an wrench on it no problem but getting a torque wrench on without removing the exhaust seems next to impossible.

I know, PITA. The crows foot adapter works. Should come with a conversion chart for offset angles.

 

[ozzyman]

good-n-tight leads to stretched bolts, weakining them. but dont mind me I am a federaly licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic....

did you try the torque wrench with a crowsfoot adapter? you mentioned welding weld a box end wrench to an old socket that fits your torque wrench then do the math to figure out your torque with the longer leverage arm created by the length of the wrench. I know plain as mud huh? anyway enjoy

While I don't think your going to stretch the axle bolt with a wrench i Agree 100% on the offset and doing the math for the longer leverage.