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· Money Grower
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Last week I brought up the problem of my tripometer reseting on my 1300. It was suggested that the battery be replaced since it was 4 or 5 years old. I noticed the tripometer would reset during a hard start situation(real cold or hot) when battery voltage dropped too low. I replaced the battery and it had been working fine until today.
I rode about fifteen minutes to the post office and stalled the engine in the parking lot and immediately tried to restart. At restart the engine must have stopped on a compression stroke or something and the starter pulled a lot more juice than normal. I looked down and noticed the tripometer flash zeros all the way across then reset to zero.
Is this a common problem? Is there an easy solution?

Thanks in advance, T.:hmm2:
 

· Desert Recluse
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Check the wiring to the ecm under the seat and also the small black box under the right side frame under the seat (my manual is in another state right now and can't recall what that box is)... those two items have some small wires that are known to have bad connections in one form or another.:cheers:

If you can't at first see any "bad connections", wiggle the wires a LITTLE .. close to the connectors at the "box"... If one falls out in your hand, you found a bad connection :) and it can be soldered... if you find nothing, you may have just "wiggled" the connector enough to make a good connection for another 20k miles or so.. maybe more:D
 

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Check your connections to the battery as well as your connections to the trip meter/speedo. it's most likely the battery connections, for some reason, they like to work their way loose on this bike. A compression stroke stop isn't gonna make the bike so hard to crank that the starter can't do it. When the starter spins, it's actually going to take the engine through at least one on each cylinder before it starts completely anyway.
 

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BigT,
Are you sure you don't have a short somewhere. It shouldn't be that hard to start even cold. Something could be draining the battery somehow. Long storage in cold weather without a charger can take the fire out of a battery also.
 

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Since I put in the new battery the engine is turning over much faster than it used to. It just turned over slow the one time when the engine stalled and I immediately pressed the starter button. This may just be an isolated incident.
T.
 

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Green Ghost said:
Is the engine turning over real fast with the new battery? Or does it still feel weak with the new one in there? GG :D

Good to see you in here again SCAR. GG

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i am having the same trouble . on a stall i try to restart and the starter times out or something. it goes real slow like the battery is dead. once it did it twice in a row. then i hit the starter again and it fired right up my bike is brand new not even 400 miles yet,but it only does it when i stall. like doing something stupid, trying to take of like a bat outa hell from a red light in third.or somthing equally lame,or when its not quite warm enuff and it dies.
 

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Stroke and pressure

vtx-ray said:
i am having the same trouble . on a stall i try to restart and the starter times out or something. it goes real slow like the battery is dead. once it did it twice in a row. then i hit the starter again and it fired right up my bike is brand new not even 400 miles yet,but it only does it when i stall. like doing something stupid, trying to take of like a bat outa hell from a red light in third.or somthing equally lame,or when its not quite warm enuff and it dies.
It's probaly just the pressure already in the cyclinder putting a extra drain on the battery when you try to start it. If it happens much, check your battery cables. You could also set the idel up a bit to help while it is still new. It will be tight for a few more miles yet. It will do a lot better when she gets some miles on her. GG
 

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I ride an 06 1300R. I have had the exact same problem. It finally took it in and told the dealer the exact conditions that cause the tripmeter to reset: when I stall, try to start once, let go of the ignition switch prematurely then immediatly press it again--when I depress the ignition the second time, that causes a reset. It really sucks when you dont remember how much gas you have.
Anyway, the dealer managed to replicate the problem, but they didn't know what to do. It's a problem I can live with for now, I just dont stall any more. On the rare occasion that I do stall, I have trained myself to wait a second or two before trying to start up again and this seems to work. Hasn't reset since...
 

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Altec, I'd check for the same thing we told BigT, as well as loose battery cables. I'd also check for a bad ground connection (the one that goes to the frame). Make sure it's clean and not hitting paint on the frame.
 

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I have the worst luck with this damn tripmeter. I took a nice ride last friday, stopped for lunch about 25 miles after filling up and zeroing out TripA, (TripB has like 300+ miles--not really keeping track of anything there). So I'm riding back and I glance down at the tripmeter and notice it's at around 7 miles.

Seven miles?!?! I know I didn't reset it. I didn't think I "shorted" it to reset (see previous post) when I started it after lunch. I switched to TripB and saw that there were still 300 plus miles there, so clearly the same problem had not occured. I thought maybe I had inadvertantly reset it, although I couldn't remember when it would have happened.

I keep riding, and periodically glance down at TripA. Then it happens. With both hands on the grips, I watched it go from 9.7...9.8...0.0...0.1!!!

This is unreal, because my warantee was up only a couple months agos (even though I took it in for the other tripmeter problem when it was still less than 1 year old). I seriously hope this is just a case of loose wiring, easily fixable, because this is a nuisance, and enough of one to convince me to not ever get another Honda.
 

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my tripometer reset itself a couple days ago. The bike stalled after a cold start and I hit the starter button before the starter disengaged. I figured the power draw caused it to zero out. That was the first and only time that happened. The bad part is we rely on the tripometer to determine when it's time to refuel. I'd be more concerned with the hard cranking, that can lead to walking. Could be a bad connection, bad starter wire or maybe the starter itself needs to be replaced.
 

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Yeah, I feel the same way, went for a ride sat. over to Lake Lure hit a piece of metel and had a flat........................guess next time I'll buy a Harley!!!
Wait a minute.....if I had a Hardly I would be pushing it 50% of the time.
Well , I'm off to get a new tire.
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i am having the same trouble . on a stall i try to restart and the starter times out or something. it goes real slow like the battery is dead. once it did it twice in a row. then i hit the starter again and it fired right up my bike is brand new not even 400 miles yet,but it only does it when i stall. like doing something stupid, trying to take of like a bat outa hell from a red light in third.or somthing equally lame,or when its not quite warm enuff and it dies.
:coffee: It could be bad spots on the stater in the starter drawing too much juice, just a thought...
 

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I have the worst luck with this damn tripmeter. I took a nice ride last friday, stopped for lunch about 25 miles after filling up and zeroing out TripA, (TripB has like 300+ miles--not really keeping track of anything there). So I'm riding back and I glance down at the tripmeter and notice it's at around 7 miles.

Seven miles?!?! I know I didn't reset it. I didn't think I "shorted" it to reset (see previous post) when I started it after lunch. I switched to TripB and saw that there were still 300 plus miles there, so clearly the same problem had not occured. I thought maybe I had inadvertantly reset it, although I couldn't remember when it would have happened.

I keep riding, and periodically glance down at TripA. Then it happens. With both hands on the grips, I watched it go from 9.7...9.8...0.0...0.1!!!

This is unreal, because my warantee was up only a couple months agos (even though I took it in for the other tripmeter problem when it was still less than 1 year old). I seriously hope this is just a case of loose wiring, easily fixable, because this is a nuisance, and enough of one to convince me to not ever get another Honda.
If the problem is a ground or cable connection, why would it only affect the A tripmeter?:hmm2:
 

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+1 Meta and Rich. The signal that is sent to the trip meter is common to A and B until it gets to the Odometer. I'd love to see what splits that between A and B, or at least a schematic to trace it down. It really doesn't sound like a short, otherwise both A and B would reset...maybe even total mileage. Is there a common wire to the starter and the odometer perhaps? I would check that connection Rich spoke of and look for arcing or burnt pins, signifying a short on an individual pin...then trace that wire or re-pin the connector.
 

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Could this have something to do with the reset button itself? And how do they stop this kind of thing from happening to the main odometer? That's what makes me think it could be the button itself. JM2C
 
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